This conversation allows us to witness some of Julia Simmons’ journey toward presence. From difficult beginnings, Julia shares a little of what’s helped her develop an ability to turn toward life. This involves meditation, of course, but also a range of other modalities and perspectives – including the encouragement to ‘let it be okay’.
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